Monday, November 28, 2016

Term 2, Turn In #7 Discussion

Turn in #7 is due Friday, Dec. 9, 2016!

This is for discussing assignments from WEEKS 1-2, including homework, turn-in #7, in-class work or lessons, or anything else related to the class from these weeks.  Please be sure to include your name at the end of your post for credit.  When answering a question, DO NOT GIVE SOLUTIONS! Provide hints or explain a method that you used, but do not give the final result.  As always, RESPECT IS A MUST! Anyone abusing this forum will be banned from future use (meaning, no extra credit!!!)

35 comments:

  1. Have we learned how to find antiderivatives with products? This is in reference to question 1b.
    Dahvi Lupovitch

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    1. Not yet, but soon! It will require a technique called Integration By Parts (IBP).

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  2. On the SP p.312 #21, how do you take the integral of cos^2x?

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    1. Use the power reducing identity for cos^2.

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    2. Replace it with the hint they give you and then take the integral of that instead

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  3. I have a general question involving definite/indefinite integrals- Problems involving sin and cos and the U sub method are kind of difficult because there are so many different identities and properties that could apply. Is there a way to know which property to use quickly or is it more of a guess and check and think through type of thing? Also, do we have to memorize all of the properties and identities on our green sheets? (Sam Zerafa)

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    1. U sub is helpful for taking an anti derivative from a chain rule, i.e. A composition of two functions. Always look to use u sub on the inner most function. Sometimes it's necessary to use trig identities to get a function into a form where the integral is easier to find. It is a bit of trial and error and a bit more of being able to recognize derivatives. You should know your green sheets thoroughly, especially the double angle identities for sin and cos.

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  4. On pg. 321 #5, it gives you u=(x/3) but why isnt u=(x^2)+9?

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    1. Because there is no X term in Th numerator, letting u=x^2 will not allow du to cancel. By letting u=X/3, we are able to get a recognizable derivative of arctan. Handy trick.

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  5. For 7c why does the variable change from n to x? Is there a specific reason or just mistyped?

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    1. ^Michael Pastoria

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    2. I do not have a copy in front of me. I will check tomorrow.

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  6. For 4a In order to find the u how could you split the x^5 into seperate parts to make the equation work or is there a different method to do this that we have not learned yet

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  7. How do we find the antiderivative to solve 4a? Is there a trick I'm missing or am I approaching the question the wrong way?
    Dahvi Lupovitch

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    1. If f is the anti derivative of (x^2/1+x^5) then that means f=the integral of the function, and because you know what f(1) is and you can use your calculator, you can solve for f(4)

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  8. For 1b it says find "an" antiderivative. If I put +c is that acceptable even though it encompasses all antiderivatives? Or should I just add a random constant

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  9. For 6D, can tabular integration be used in order to find the position of the apricot?

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    1. Yes, you can use tabular integration with the equation tcost.

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    2. Actually thought Michaela wrote "equation toast" for a minute...now I'm hungry :)

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  10. For 7b I was thinking to take the second derivative of T and find where that equals zero to find the point of inflections for T so that I can find where T is concave up, but I can't figure out how to factor that out and solve for n without using a calculator... Is there another approach I should be taking to solve this?
    - Evan Gilman

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    1. You should be able to factor out an exponential GCF, leaving you with a quadratic function.

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  11. On problem 3, does the capital letters in R(t) and D(t) imply anti derivatives?

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    1. No, those are the given RATE functions. This problem is very similar to the final exam question we discussed in class.

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  12. Does anyone know if the double substitution is required to solve 5?

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  13. For 1c on the turn in, I set the equation to 0 but I'm not sure where to go from there?

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    1. Use the antiderivative expression you found in part b to evaluate the definite integral (one of the limits being the unknown you wish to solve for). Let your calculator do the heavy lifting from there. No more hints from me tonight... :)

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  14. For 5a are we allowed to use product rule for something that's inside a sum?

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  15. on #5 of the homework, can we still use the finger rule if the nominator is a polynomial?
    Estelle

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    1. Yes, you just have to solve the top as well with the number that would make the denominator zero.

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  16. On the "Techniques of Integration #2" worksheet, I can't seem to figure out how to do #8. I don't know what to use for u.

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    1. I don't have a copy at home with me. Can you post the question, please?

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